Comments for Who Needs an Islamic State? http://my-islamic-state.com by Dr Abdelwahab El-Affendi Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:10:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU Comment on Quote from Wan Saiful Wan Jan, Director General, Malaysia Think Tank London by Ibnu Khuzaimah http://my-islamic-state.com/2008/02/14/quote-from-wan-saiful-wan-jan-director-general-malaysia-think-tank-london/#comment-25 Ibnu Khuzaimah Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:43:14 +0000 http://my-islamic-state.com/2008/02/14/quote-from-wan-saiful-wan-jan-director-general-malaysia-think-tank-london/#comment-25 I participated in your discourse in Kuala Lumpur. The discourse held were very encouraging despites the lack of attendees. I was very impressed with one Dr Zulkefly Ahmad. There should be more debates with strong characters as panel. However, one panel - Malik Imtiaz seem to propagate something else by narrowing his arguments into limitations suppressed by constitutional decree. I participated in your discourse in Kuala Lumpur. The discourse held were very encouraging despites the lack of attendees. I was very impressed with one Dr Zulkefly Ahmad. There should be more debates with strong characters as panel. However, one panel - Malik Imtiaz seem to propagate something else by narrowing his arguments into limitations suppressed by constitutional decree.

]]> Comment on “Who Needs an Islamic State?” - Singapore event by TARIK ABDULLAH ABULQASIM http://my-islamic-state.com/2008/04/12/36/#comment-24 TARIK ABDULLAH ABULQASIM Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:09:35 +0000 http://my-islamic-state.com/2008/03/19/36/#comment-24 IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE HAVE AN ISLAMIC STATE IN ORDER FOR MUSLIMS TO IMPLEMENT THE LAWS OF ALLAH (swt). ALLAH HAS PERFECTED THIS DEEN (SYSTEM) AND ALLAH (swt) SAID THAT HE WILL ESTABLISH THIS RELIGION OVER ALL SYSTEMS WHETHER THEY (THE UNBELIEVERS) LIKE IT OR NOT. HAS DEMOCRACY, COMMUNISM, SOCIALISM, OR CATHOLICISM OR ANY MAN-MADE SYSTEM EVER BEEN OR EVER WILL BE PERFERCTED FOR MANKIND? "AND WHOEVER DOES NOT JUDGE BY WHAT ALLAH AND HIS PROPHET ARE JUST AS BAD AS UNBELIEVERS. I THINK MR. EFFENDI DOES A GREAT DISSERVICE TO ISLAM BY ESPOUSING THIS IDEOLOGY AND I MUST IMMENSELY COMMEND BROTHER TAJI MUSTAFA FOR HIS GALLANT EFFORT IN DEFENDING ISLAM AND MAY ALLAH SHOWER HIS CHOICEST OF BLESSINGS UPON BROTHER TAJI.. ANY SINCERE MUSLIM WOULD NOT HESITATE TO ESTABLISH ISLAM WHICH CAN ONLY BE REALIZED THROUGH AN ISLAMIC STATE. IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE HAVE AN ISLAMIC STATE IN ORDER FOR MUSLIMS TO IMPLEMENT THE LAWS OF ALLAH (swt). ALLAH HAS PERFECTED THIS DEEN (SYSTEM) AND ALLAH (swt) SAID THAT HE WILL ESTABLISH THIS RELIGION OVER ALL SYSTEMS WHETHER THEY (THE UNBELIEVERS) LIKE IT OR NOT. HAS DEMOCRACY, COMMUNISM, SOCIALISM, OR CATHOLICISM OR ANY MAN-MADE SYSTEM EVER BEEN OR EVER WILL BE PERFERCTED FOR MANKIND? “AND WHOEVER DOES NOT JUDGE BY WHAT ALLAH AND HIS PROPHET ARE JUST AS BAD AS UNBELIEVERS. I THINK MR. EFFENDI DOES A GREAT DISSERVICE TO ISLAM BY ESPOUSING THIS IDEOLOGY AND I MUST IMMENSELY COMMEND BROTHER TAJI MUSTAFA FOR HIS GALLANT EFFORT IN DEFENDING ISLAM AND MAY ALLAH SHOWER HIS CHOICEST OF BLESSINGS UPON BROTHER TAJI.. ANY SINCERE MUSLIM WOULD NOT HESITATE TO ESTABLISH ISLAM WHICH CAN ONLY BE REALIZED THROUGH AN ISLAMIC STATE.

]]> Comment on Debate on Islam Channel by Khalid http://my-islamic-state.com/2008/03/19/debate-on-islam-channel/#comment-22 Khalid Sat, 05 Apr 2008 21:02:00 +0000 http://myislamicstate.wordpress.com/?p=35#comment-22 Sallam Alaikom w rahmatu allah w barakatuh I am not from hizb ut tahrir, and dont agree with them, but I am far away from what Dr Al afandi is saying, I read his books, I read many of his articles, where he is usualy lost in history, In one of his books (arabic) clearly you can see, he felt sorry for Ali abdulrazeq, which wrote a book refused by all Ulmaa' at his time which is not long ago, and Imaam Ashor (Malki school of thought) wrote a very good reply refuting all his secular ideas, Dr al afandi is not representing any muslim group, no one accept what he is saying, we all agree about the need for the Islamic state, we could disagree with hizb ut tahrir in the way to get to it, but the turkey module of Ordugan and Gul is not accepted by muslims, and this module is highly criticized by most muslims. when I see Ordugan with Sharoon in one photo, I ask all my muslim brothers to forgive me that in one day I liked this Shaytaan. You will find some of our leaders say strange things like its accepted for a Nonmuslim to be the Ruler or other things, but this leader doesnt represent us. we had enough with this school of thought which has no followers, and I realy dont know if all people of a group against these Ideas, how come they get into the Shura Council of our group. I dont mean Dr al afandi as he is not a learder in any group, with all respect to him. We must get rid of these ideas, We are the largest group, but such ideas make us unable to move forward. Sallam Sallam Alaikom w rahmatu allah w barakatuh

I am not from hizb ut tahrir, and dont agree with them, but I am far away from what Dr Al afandi is saying, I read his books, I read many of his articles, where he is usualy lost in history, In one of his books (arabic) clearly you can see, he felt sorry for Ali abdulrazeq, which wrote a book refused by all Ulmaa’ at his time which is not long ago, and Imaam Ashor (Malki school of thought) wrote a very good reply refuting all his secular ideas, Dr al afandi is not representing any muslim group, no one accept what he is saying, we all agree about the need for the Islamic state, we could disagree with hizb ut tahrir in the way to get to it, but the turkey module of Ordugan and Gul is not accepted by muslims, and this module is highly criticized by most muslims. when I see Ordugan with Sharoon in one photo, I ask all my muslim brothers to forgive me that in one day I liked this Shaytaan.

You will find some of our leaders say strange things like its accepted for a Nonmuslim to be the Ruler or other things, but this leader doesnt represent us. we had enough with this school of thought which has no followers, and I realy dont know if all people of a group against these Ideas, how come they get into the Shura Council of our group. I dont mean Dr al afandi as he is not a learder in any group, with all respect to him.

We must get rid of these ideas, We are the largest group, but such ideas make us unable to move forward.

Sallam

]]> Comment on Debate on Islam Channel by Saqib Bukhari http://my-islamic-state.com/2008/03/19/debate-on-islam-channel/#comment-21 Saqib Bukhari Sat, 05 Apr 2008 18:02:03 +0000 http://myislamicstate.wordpress.com/?p=35#comment-21 If Imam Mawardi could have written a text hundreds of years after the death of the Prophet (pbuh), why can’t another scholar write another text now? There is nothing wrong with another scholar writing a text now. The fact is, it should be encouraged simply because Muslims need to know how Islam can be applied in the 21st Century, and this requires Ijtihad where the principles from Quran, Sunnah, Ijma as Sahaba and Qiyas are applied to new realities. Using this as a premise, one does not need to look outside of Islam for solutions rather Islam has the solutions. Therefore, concepts such as Democracy etc are not required as they contradict basic tenets of Islam. If Imam Mawardi could have written a text hundreds of years after the death of the Prophet (pbuh), why can’t another scholar write another text now?

There is nothing wrong with another scholar writing a text now. The fact is, it should be encouraged simply because Muslims need to know how Islam can be applied in the 21st Century, and this requires Ijtihad where the principles from Quran, Sunnah, Ijma as Sahaba and Qiyas are applied to new realities. Using this as a premise, one does not need to look outside of Islam for solutions rather Islam has the solutions. Therefore, concepts such as Democracy etc are not required as they contradict basic tenets of Islam.

]]> Comment on Bringing back the caliphate by Saqib Bukhari http://my-islamic-state.com/2008/03/30/bringing-back-the-caliphate/#comment-20 Saqib Bukhari Sat, 05 Apr 2008 17:39:35 +0000 http://myislamicstate.wordpress.com/?p=38#comment-20 Prior to one trying to reconcile the ideals of Islam and that of democracy, it is important we all agree on the definition of democracy. The word derives from the Greek demokratia, where 'demos' meaning people and 'Kratos' meaning rule, thus, in summation meaning rule of the people. This is where a firm contradiction lies in respect to Islam. As far as the Muslim Aqeedah goes, we wholeheartedly accept that Allah (swt) is the legislator therefore, Allah's rulings need to govern our everyday life. Equating democracy with free elections is simply half the story as many political systems allow free elections (including Islam) but that does not mean that man is free to discuss and debate rulings and change them as we see fit. This is where the line has to be drawn. Prior to one trying to reconcile the ideals of Islam and that of democracy, it is important we all agree on the definition of democracy. The word derives from the Greek demokratia, where ‘demos’ meaning people and ‘Kratos’ meaning rule, thus, in summation meaning rule of the people. This is where a firm contradiction lies in respect to Islam. As far as the Muslim Aqeedah goes, we wholeheartedly accept that Allah (swt) is the legislator therefore, Allah’s rulings need to govern our everyday life.
Equating democracy with free elections is simply half the story as many political systems allow free elections (including Islam) but that does not mean that man is free to discuss and debate rulings and change them as we see fit. This is where the line has to be drawn.

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